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 The memos do actually group the countries together on the same page: so [[Venezuela]], [[Mexico]] and [[Chile]] (in that order) are on the same series of memos, and [[Brazil]] and [[Guatemala]] (in that order) are both on the same set of notices.
-It would appear that Time-Life Television, who were the distributors of BBC programming throughout North, Central and South America, offered the series to the first four countries named above at the 4-8 March 1978 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Television_Program_Executives NATPE] exhibit, with the other two a year later, at the March 1979 exhibit. (The exhibit held in March 1981 was the final one that Time Life attended; Western World Television Inc took over the Latin American distribution rights, and either picked up all of Time Life's old client base, or started afresh.)
+It would appear that Time-Life Television, who were the distributors of BBC programming throughout North, Central and South America, offered the series to the first four countries named above at the 4-8 March 1978 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Television_Program_Executives NATPE] exhibit, with the other two a year later, at the March 1979 exhibit. (The exhibit held in March 1981 was the final one that Time-Life attended; Western World Television Inc took over the Latin American distribution rights, and either picked up all of Time-Life's old client base, or started afresh.)
 NOTE: The retained music clearances pages end at December 1979, so sales to countries made after that are undocumented, and therefore this aspect of research is unreliable.
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-The fact that all the dated music clearances are from November 1978 to March 1979, shortly after the grand launch of the series in the [[United States]], suggests that Time Life wanted to exploit the new series to as many countries as possible, and all at the same time, which was one of the main purposes of the NATPE exhibits. Time Life handled sales to Latin America as well as North America, so did its deal include some sort of "bulk" sale / offer that encompassed not only the USA but also Latin America and South America? (Strictly speaking, [[Brazil]] is not Latin America, but since it is part of continental South America, it would presumably also be part of Time Life's catchment area; and indeed, Time Life was financially involved in helping set up Brazil's first television network in the 1960s.) There is no certainty that in all cases an actual sale ever took place. Some of these may have been '''prospective''' sales, but with a payment in advance.
+The fact that all the dated music clearances are from November 1978 to March 1979, shortly after the grand launch of the series in the [[United States]], suggests that Time-Life wanted to exploit the new series to as many countries as possible, and all at the same time, which was one of the main purposes of the NATPE exhibits. Time-Life handled sales to Latin America as well as North America, so did its deal include some sort of "bulk" sale / offer that encompassed not only the USA but also Latin America and South America? (Strictly speaking, [[Brazil]] is not Latin America, but since it is part of continental South America, it would presumably also be part of Time-Life's catchment area; and indeed, Time-Life was financially involved in helping set up Brazil's first television network in the 1960s.) There is no certainty that in all cases an actual sale ever took place. Some of these may have been '''prospective''' sales, but with a payment in advance.
-In the 1960s / early 1970s, some of the television stations in Latin America were supported financially by the major networks in the [[United States]]: for instance the '''American Broadcasting Company (ABC)''' had investment interests in stations operating from [[Argentina]], [[Chile]], [[Colombia]], [[Costa Rica]], [[Ecuador]], [[Guatemala]], [[Honduras]], Panama, Uruguay, and [[Venezuela]], although it's not known whether those financial interests continued into the late 1970s when '''Doctor Who''' was on offer, or whether this interest went as far as influencing the types of programmes that those stations aired. Time Life's interests in [[Brazil]]'s Globo TV had already ended by 1978.
+In the 1960s / early 1970s, some of the television stations in Latin America were supported financially by the major networks in the [[United States]]: for instance the '''American Broadcasting Company (ABC)''' had investment interests in stations operating from [[Argentina]], [[Chile]], [[Colombia]], [[Costa Rica]], [[Ecuador]], [[Guatemala]], [[Honduras]], Panama, Uruguay, and [[Venezuela]], although it's not known whether those financial interests continued into the late 1970s when '''Doctor Who''' was on offer, or whether this interest went as far as influencing the types of programmes that those stations aired. Time-Life's interests in [[Brazil]]'s Globo TV had already ended by 1978.
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 - [[Ecuador]] was the first country to "buy" the series (according to the music clearances) but it wasn't the first to screen it (it was potentially the fifth or sixth (based on the available dates). [[Ecuador]], [[Venezuela]] and [[Brazil]] appear only in the music clearances, and nowhere else. Airdates have been found for [[Ecuador]] and [[Venezuela]] some '''16 months''' after the sales date. Is that significant? (Did [[Mexico]], where the dubbings were performed have first rights to screen the series, and [[Ecuador]], despite some being sold the series first, simply had to wait in line?) Possibly of significance is that both [[Mexico]] and [[Ecuador]] aired the serials edited into "hours"; [[Ecuador]] probably had to wait till [[Mexico]] had finished its run first before acquiring copies of the edited tapes, rather than acquiring episodic versions that [[Chile]] was screening.
-- For those countries where airdates have not been found, did the series actually ever screen? Are they merely '''potential sales''' that Time Life offered but which ultimately did not go ahead – hence their absence from the other two columns?
+- For those countries where airdates have not been found, did the series actually ever screen? Are they merely '''potential sales''' that Time-Life offered but which ultimately did not go ahead – hence their absence from the other two columns?
-- Was it the fact that [[Brazil]] broadcast in the PAL format, and would have to create their own Portuguese dubs (whereas all other countries in South America had distribution by Time Life, and broadcast in NTSC and [[Spanish]]) the reason why the series didn't air, or why it may have aired much, much later than the original 1979 year of "sale"?
+- Was it the fact that [[Brazil]] broadcast in the PAL format, and would have to create their own Portuguese dubs (whereas all other countries in South America had distribution by Time-Life, and broadcast in NTSC and [[Spanish]]) the reason why the series didn't air, or why it may have aired much, much later than the original 1979 year of "sale"?
 - [[Puerto Rico]] is not named in any of the memos, and yet the series aired there a few months after the series had commenced in [[Mexico]] and [[Chile]]. (Of course, being recognised as a 'territory' of the USA, sales to [[Puerto Rico]] might be included in the sales that '''are '''recorded to "[[United States]]" in the 1987 memo.)
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 - Airdates for [[Brazil]] have been impossible to find; the country has over 50 private TV stations, which don't all have listings in newspapers. (We have not included Brazil in the above table for that reason.)
-- Going back to the December 1979 Tom Baker interview, what of Paraguay, Uruguay, British Guiana, Bolivia, [[Argentina]], Panama and El Salvador? Was the series sold to any of those countries as well? (It was reported in the '''24 August 1979''' edition of ''Back Stage'' magazine, that Time Life Television had sold one of its own mini-series to "Chile, Ecuador, Panama, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Guatemala and Nicaragua", which illustrates what Time Life's catchment area was.)
+- Going back to the December 1979 Tom Baker interview, what of Paraguay, Uruguay, British Guiana, Bolivia, [[Argentina]], Panama and El Salvador? Was the series sold to any of those countries as well? (It was reported in the '''24 August 1979''' edition of ''Back Stage'' magazine, that Time-Life Television had sold one of its own mini-series to "Chile, Ecuador, Panama, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Guatemala and Nicaragua", which illustrates what Time-Life's catchment area was.)
-- When Time Life wound down its television distribution services, Western World Media Inc picked up the rights to Latin America, commencing '''1 April 1981'''. How did the change of distributor affect the sales already negotiated and contracted or about to be contracted by Time Life? (Note how many repeat runs of the Tom Baker stories there were in Latin American countries 1981: were these the last rush to use up the screenings before the rights expired?) Were any of the sales cancelled, voided or re-negotiated after 1981? Is '''''that''''' why the records are amiss? Did the 1987 memo only record some of the sales made by Time Life pre-1981?
+- When Time-Life wound down its television distribution services, Western World Media Inc picked up the rights to Latin America, commencing '''1 April 1981'''. How did the change of distributor affect the sales already negotiated and contracted or about to be contracted by Time-Life? (Note how many repeat runs of the Tom Baker stories there were in Latin American countries 1981: were these the last rush to use up the screenings before the rights expired?) Were any of the sales cancelled, voided or re-negotiated after 1981? Is '''''that''''' why the records are amiss? Did the 1987 memo only record some of the sales made by Time-Life pre-1981?
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 *1980? - Honduras commences screenings?
 *February '''1981''' – Chile commences another run of repeats, now episodically
-*1 April 1981 – Time Life is replaced by Western World Television as distributor to Latin America…
+*1 April 1981 – Time-Life is replaced by Western World Television as distributor to Latin America…
 *31 May 1981 - Venezuela commences screenings (two years after 1979 sale)
 *1981? - Guatemala commences screenings? (two years after 1979 sale)
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 * Did a sale to the ''first'' country in each region (as per the groupings on the music clearances) cover other costs of the ''second'' (and ''third''?) country within that same region, which is why the second and third country named on the same music clearances is not recorded in the 1987 memo?
 * For sales and/or advance payments for screenings that didn't proceed, could the "sale" be transferred to another country that "refunded" the original purchaser instead of the BBC?
-* The "sales" were handled by Time Life, who would have notified the BBC of all sales that had been completed; but how accurate was their communication with the BBC? Did they provide the BBC with details of every sale?
+* The "sales" were handled by Time-Life, who would have notified the BBC of all sales that had been completed; but how accurate was their communication with the BBC? Did they provide the BBC with details of every sale?
 *Did the format in which the series was sold determine how/if a sale was recorded?

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 By 1973, the exclusive distribution of BBC programmes to North, Central and South American regions was contracted to Time-Life Films / Time-Life Television.
-As was noted in the 31 March 1976 edition of ''Variety'', Time Life's top markets for BBC material in Latin America at the time were "[[Brazil]], [[Mexico]], [[Venezuela]], [[Colombia]] and [[:Category:Central America|Central America]], in that order". [[Puerto Rico]] had also been a viable market before suffering an economic slump. The article also noted that [[Chile]] was also buying product, while Argentina and [[Peru]] were difficult markets to break.
+As was noted in the 31 March 1976 edition of ''Variety'', Time-Life's top markets for BBC material in Latin America at the time were "[[Brazil]], [[Mexico]], [[Venezuela]], [[Colombia]] and [[:Category:Central America|Central America]], in that order". [[Puerto Rico]] had also been a viable market before suffering an economic slump. The article also noted that [[Chile]] was also buying product, while Argentina and [[Peru]] were difficult markets to break.
 The article also notes the costs associated with dubbing programmes into Spanish, which was "virtually all ... done in [[Mexico]]". And at a cost of between '''$900''' and '''$1,700''' (US dollars) per one hour segment, was an expensive undertaking without prior commitment to buy from the regular markets.
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 The memos do actually group the countries together on the same page: so [[Venezuela]], [[Mexico]] and [[Chile]] (in that order) are on the same series of memos, and [[Brazil]] and [[Guatemala]] (in that order) are both on the same set of notices.
-It would appear that Time Life Television, who were the distributors of BBC programming throughout North, Central and South America, offered the series to the first four countries named above at the 4-8 March 1978 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Television_Program_Executives NATPE] exhibit, with the other two a year later, at the March 1979 exhibit. (The exhibit held in March 1981 was the final one that Time Life attended; Western World Television Inc took over the Latin American distribution rights, and either picked up all of Time Life's old client base, or started afresh.)
+It would appear that Time-Life Television, who were the distributors of BBC programming throughout North, Central and South America, offered the series to the first four countries named above at the 4-8 March 1978 [http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Association_of_Television_Program_Executives NATPE] exhibit, with the other two a year later, at the March 1979 exhibit. (The exhibit held in March 1981 was the final one that Time Life attended; Western World Television Inc took over the Latin American distribution rights, and either picked up all of Time Life's old client base, or started afresh.)
 NOTE: The retained music clearances pages end at December 1979, so sales to countries made after that are undocumented, and therefore this aspect of research is unreliable.

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	- Going back to the December 1979 Tom Baker interview, what of Paraguay, Uruguay, British Guiana, Bolivia, [[Argentina]], Panama and El Salvador? Was the series sold to any of those countries as well? (It was reported in the '''24 August 1979''' edition of ''Back Stage'' magazine, that Time Life Television had sold one of its own mini-series to "Chile, Ecuador, Panama, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Guatemala and Nicaragua", which illustrates what Time Life's catchment area was.)		- Going back to the December 1979 Tom Baker interview, what of Paraguay, Uruguay, British Guiana, Bolivia, [[Argentina]], Panama and El Salvador? Was the series sold to any of those countries as well? (It was reported in the '''24 August 1979''' edition of ''Back Stage'' magazine, that Time Life Television had sold one of its own mini-series to "Chile, Ecuador, Panama, El Salvador, Costa Rica, Honduras, Puerto Rico, Guatemala and Nicaragua", which illustrates what Time Life's catchment area was.)

−	- When Time Life wound down its television distribution services, Western World Media Inc picked up the rights to Latin America, commencing '''1 April 1981'''. How did the change of distributor affect the sales already negotiated and contracted or about to be contracted by Time Life? Were any of the sales cancelled, voided or re-negotiated after 1981? Is '''''that''''' why the records are amiss? Did the 1987 memo only record some of the sales made by Time Life pre-1981?	+	- When Time Life wound down its television distribution services, Western World Media Inc picked up the rights to Latin America, commencing '''1 April 1981'''. How did the change of distributor affect the sales already negotiated and contracted or about to be contracted by Time Life? (Note how many repeat runs of the Tom Baker stories there were in Latin American countries 1981: were these the last rush to use up the screenings before the rights expired?) Were any of the sales cancelled, voided or re-negotiated after 1981? Is '''''that''''' why the records are amiss? Did the 1987 memo only record some of the sales made by Time Life pre-1981?

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 |[[Venezuela]]||16 & 23 February 1979||31 May 1981||hour||--||23
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 ***potentially also sold to Costa Rica [1? story; per 1987 memo], Colombia and Puerto Rico at this time (with the sale to Puerto Rico included in the sales to the United States)
 *4 May 1979 – With dubbings completed, Mexico commences screenings (with repeats until 1981)
-*9 May 1979 – Chile commences screenings (with repeats until July 1980)
+*9 May 1979 – Chile commences screenings (with repeats until May 1981, albeit in different formats)
 *23 October 1979 – Puerto Rico commences screenings (with repeats until April 1981)
 *4 February '''1980''' – Costa Rica commences screenings (with repeats until 1983)
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 *6 August 1980 – Nicaragua commences screenings (with repeats until 1982)
 *1980? - Honduras commences screenings?
-*1 April '''1981''' – Time Life is replaced by Western World Television as distributor to Latin America…
+*February '''1981''' – Chile commences another run of repeats, now episodically
 *31 May 1981 - Venezuela commences screenings (two years after 1979 sale)
 *1981? - Guatemala commences screenings? (two years after 1979 sale)
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 *Set 1 (''hour''): '''Mexico''' -> '''Ecuador''' (neither in the 1987 list)
 *Set 2 (''half hour''): Chile -> '''Puerto Rico''' -> '''Colombia''' -> '''Mexico''' -> '''Colombia''' (for 1987 run only) (only Chile in 1987 list)
-*Set 3 (''half hour''): Costa Rica -> Nicaragua -> Venezuela -> Honduras # -> Guatemala # - > Dominican Republic (only 7 of these) # -> ? (all in the 1987 list)
+*Set 3 (''half hour''): Costa Rica -> Nicaragua -> Chile -> Venezuela -> Honduras # -> Guatemala # - > Dominican Republic (only 7 of these) # -> ? (all in the 1987 list)
 *Set 4 (''omnibus''): Chile (in the 1987 list)

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 [[File:TLLatAm.jpg |right|thumb|250px|Distribution of BBC programmes in Latin America; Variety, 31 March 1976]]
-The BBC marketed and distributed its own programming to Latin American countries during the 1960s, but only had very limited success, selling '''Doctor Who''' to only three countries.
+The BBC marketed and distributed its own programming to Latin American countries during the 1960s, but only had very limited success, selling '''Doctor Who''' to only four countries.
 By 1973, the exclusive distribution of BBC programmes to North, Central and South American regions was contracted to Time-Life Films / Time-Life Television.

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+<span style="font-size:200%;">The Mystery of the Missing Misterios</span>
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 Let's create the possible tape 'bicycling' sequences:
 *Set 1 (''hour''): '''Mexico''' -> '''Ecuador''' (neither in the 1987 list)
-*Set 2 (''half hour''): Chile -> '''Colombia''' -> '''Mexico''' -> '''Colombia''' (for 1987 run) (only Chile in 1987 list)
+*Set 2 (''half hour''): Chile -> '''Puerto Rico''' # -> '''Colombia''' -> '''Mexico''' -> '''Colombia''' (for 1987 run) (only Chile in 1987 list)
 *Set 3 (''half hour''): Costa Rica -> Nicaragua -> Honduras # -> Guatemala # - > Dominican Republic (only 7) # -> ? (all in the 1987 list)
-*Set 4 (''half hour''): '''Puerto Rico''' # -> '''Venezuela''' # -> '''Peru''' # -> ? (none in the 1987 list)
+*Set 4 (''unknown''): '''Venezuela''' # -> '''Peru''' # -> ? (none in the 1987 list)
 *Set 5 (''omnibus''): Chile (in the 1987 list)